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JLP- 08-09-2007

Hi Oskar & Clothdog, mates The numbers you post : 18 3 0 21 31 36 21 11 6 9 ---- > key numbers 9 - 21 -33 30 L ( Here another key - 6 -18 -30, but keep with the other) 13 W ------ >STOP & WAIT FOR NEW KEY - WIN ON 2ND SPIN 16 32 16 2 13 18 -------- > NO KEYS - KEEP ON TRACKING 27 8 35 5 7 36 21 33 ---- > KEY 9 - 21 - 33 11 L 36 W ------- > STOP & WAIT FOR NEW KEY - WIN ON 2ND SPIN 16 3 21 25 15 ---- > KEY 3 - 15 - 27 12 L 20 L 35 W ------- > STOP & WAIT FOR NEW KEY - WIN ON 3RD SPIN 36 ---- > KEY 0 - 12 - 24 - 36 18 L 15 L 31 W ------- > STOP & WAIT FOR NEW KEY - WIN ON 3RD SPIN 20 21 2 28 36 25 35 21 ------ > NEW KEY TRACKING 8 4 15 20 ---- > KEY 8 - 20 - 3 20 W ------- > STOP & WAIT FOR NEW KEY - WIN ON 1ST SPIN 0 36 ---- > KEY 0 - 12 - 24 - 36 32 W ------- > STOP & WAIT FOR NEW KEY - WIN ON 1ST SPIN 1 Clothdog I was betting the 13 numbers bet and as you say it hits at the 3rd. spin. ¿You use a progression here or flat betting? ¿Which´s the progression - 1 1 2 or 1 2 3? THANKS MATE IT SEEMS TO WORK. WE HAVE TO GET THE HAND OF THE SYSTEM!!!!! JLP.-

TwoCatSam- 08-09-2007
I'm off JLP.- and on clothdog now....
Hello clothdog from Buffalo I created a sheet for the single 0 wheel to use with Gamlet's Methodology. Well, it works perfectly with yours, also. I just have to darken the key numbers and the thing will track yours and his at the same time. I am feeling the need to find synthesis in the two systems. When you both pick some numbers, it could murder the wheel. I swear, next week I am going to do some real -*test*-('")ing and some reporting. Thank you for posting this. FYI, Ronjo never sent me this system. Maybe he liked you better!! LOL TwoCat

clothdog- 08-09-2007

Thanks JLP and Twocat! JLP you're right on. But you missed a key 0-36 which lost. There is an important point I have not shared. If you get a repeater, and a key comes in, DO NOT PLAY THAT GROUP!!. Example: 2 15 17 2-repeater 23 14-key 2-14-26 DO NOT PLAY THIS GROUP! I have found you will lose more than you will win. If there are no more than 4 spins between the repeater and then no more than 4 spins between the key-total 8 spins do not play. example again: 13 12 6 23 34 12-repeater 9 28 14 36-KEY 0-12-24-36-NO PLAY. WAIT FOR NEXT SIGNAL. I used to play repeaters and then just the keys to come. So in the above example I would play 0-24-36. Leave out the repeater, but I would play for 6-7 spins. There are other variations I have used with success with my system. CD

TwoCatSam- 08-09-2007

JLP.- Good work. Suite332 is down for some reason and I can't see the wheel. When I can, I will start -*test*-('")ing. Sam

microdata- 08-09-2007

this system is flippin amazing... all you need is for the wheel to hit a sweet spot, I won just shy of 30,000 tonight using it I will post numbers and results in my personal forum thread on the 4th post forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=110" target="_blank">http://vlsroulette.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=110

Lanky- 08-10-2007

Clothdog. Hi I am a stupid person some times. I still don,t get it. I will put some numbers here from Zingle zero wheel for you to guide me through it. And when you say bet this group can you please tell me what that goup is (what numbers are in that group) Thanks in advance. Lanky 5 36 12 13 9 35 22 30 14 13 21 16 24 14 10 17 12 1 24 3 32 29 2 15 35 8 10 19 17 11 31 27 9 10 30 Z 19 35 Thanks for your help Lanky

microdata- 08-10-2007

5 --- Key from 5-17-29 group 36 - Key from 0/00/12-24-36 group 12 - Key from 0/00/12-24-36 group 2 keys within 4 spins of each other play the 13 numbers for this group (12/0/00-2-16-19-20-24-27-28-31-32-35-36) for the next 3 spins 13 Loss -- Key from 1-13-25 group 9 Loss - Key from 9-21-33 group 35 Win - #from 0/00/12-24-36 group gain profit if using progression -2 if not using progression 22 Loss -- Key from 10-22-34 group 30 Loss -- key from 6-18-30 group - stop betting here. no more double of 1 group in the last 5 spins 14 -- key from 2-14-26 group 13 -- key from 1-13-25 group -- no bet as there are 6 spins between the two keys 21 -- key from 9-21-33 group 16 -- key from 4-16-28 group 24 -- key from 0/00/12-24-36 group 14 -- key from 2-14-26 group 10 -- 10-22-34 17 -- 2-17-29 12 -- 0/00/12-24-36 group 4 spins of each other place bet on number group (12/0/00-2-16-19-20-24-27-28-31-32-35-36) 1 - Loss -- 1-13-25 group 24 - Win -- 0/00/12-24-36 group 3 - Loss -- 3-15-27 group 32 - Win -- 8-20-32 group no dominant group keep betting 0/00/12-24-36 group 29 - Loss -- 5-17-29 group 2 - Win -- 2-14-26 group 15 - Loss - 3-15-27 group - 2 numbers 4 spins play (3-7-10-11-15-19-22-23-27-29-31-34-35) 35 - Win - 11-23-35 group 8 - Loss - 8-20-32 group 10 - Win - 10-22-34 group 19 - Win - 7-19-31 group 17 - Loss - 5-17-29 group 11 - Win - 11-23-35 group 31 - Win - 7-19-31 group switch groups play these numbers now (7-3-11-14-15-16-19-23-26-27-31-33-35) 27 - Win - 3-15-27 group 9 - Loss - 9-21-33 group no double group in last 5 spins no bet. 10 - 10-22-34 group 30 - 6-18-30 group Z - 0/00/12-24-36 group 19 - 7-19-31 group 35 - 11-23-35 group thats how I would of played it :) lets see how close I am to CD's thinking hehe With 10 Wins and 11 Losses and flat betting you would be +87 Units

clothdog- 08-10-2007

Clothdog. Hi I am a stupid person some times. I still don,t get it. I will put some numbers here from Zingle zero wheel for you to guide me through it. And when you say bet this group can you please tell me what that goup is (what numbers are in that group) Thanks in advance. Lanky-you have to wait till you get 2 numbers that form a group. Then play that group. It's a simple deal 5 36-key 12-key 13 9 35-WIN 22 30 14 13 21 16 24-key 14 10 17 12-key 0-12-24-36 1 24-WIN 3 32 29 2 15 35 8 10 19-key 17 11 31- 7-19-31 27-WIN 9 10 30 Z 19 35 Thanks for your help Lanky OK microdata, well done!! You can play this way too! take a closer look and you will see there are many ways to play these numbers. I get 3 plays with a 1-2-3 progresion 3 wins and 3 losses.and up 114 units! Like I said I when I win I stop. but my friend continues to play for 2-3 more spins. He has hit as many times as 7 in a row. There is no firm rule there. When you win if you would like to play for 3 more spins you could do that. I just like to take my chips and wait for the next signal. Also like I said, when I first developed this I would play the progression for 5 spins. that can be a bit heavy, but if you check you will hit probably 80-90% of the time if you don't get it in the first 3. It all depends on bankroll. Well done again mate! Check any table any where, dealer or no dealer or 100 dealers, the owner of the casino can spin the ball..(just for you microdata! ) doesn't matter..this system wins consistently. I will post for those who would like to play 18 numbers. That's has high as it goes. CD My system killed airball last night.

microdata- 08-10-2007

hehe there are no automated roulette tables up here :) all dealer played there was several dealer changes while I was playing in the end I left with a large sum of cash and the roulette tables were just busy like crazy a crowd all around them. Last night also craps! this young caucasian female my god lol she had 2 trays of pink chips (100 chips/tray 500 each chip), looks like it was a good night for many at the casino last night.

JLP- 08-10-2007

Hi Clothdog, ¿You also have key numbers for 9 and 12 numbers? THANKS, JLP.-

TwoCatSam- 08-10-2007
clothdog's template
All....... Being the studious sort I am, I have created a template using clothdog's key numbers which will work nicely with my Gamlet chart. Here's how to use it: The first of the three key numbers is in bold, italics and underlined. Print this off and lay it at the bottom of the Gamlet chart and write the spins as they come, except stop at four instead of going to five. You will have to memorize the layout; there is no other way. When you get your two key numbers they will appear between the bold writing so you can easily see if they are in the right key. Just move the template up with each spin and when you have two within the three key numbers, you go for it. If I EVER get back on Suite332, I will try this with real money. Sam

clothdog- 08-10-2007

JLP, I have to check my files. I don't know if I ever developed one. I started with a 6-7 number and then went right to 13 and found that worked the best. I charted 160 spins and alot of them in airball roulette and did very well CD

microdata- 08-10-2007

here is run number 2 24 -- 0/00/12-24-36 group 35 -- 11-23-35 group 00 -- 0/00/12-24-36 group (*12/0/00-2-16-19-20-*24-27-28-31-32-35-*36) 18 -- Loss - -14U 6-18-30 group 1 -- Loss - -26U 1-13-25 group 00 -- Win - +66U 0/00/12/24/36 group 35 -- Win - +44U 11-23-35 group 00 -- Win - +21U 0/00/12/24/36 group 35 -- Win - +21U 11-23-35 group change group (*11-3-4-7-13-15-18-19-*23-27-30-31-*35) 2 -- Loss - -13U 2-14-26 group 7 -- Win - +46U 7-19-31 group 12 -- Loss - -13U 0/00/12-24-36 group change group (*12/0/00-2-16-19-20-*24-27-28-31-32-35-*36) 36 -- Win - +44U 0/00/12-24-36 group 0 -- Win - +21U 0/00/12-24-36 group 19 -- Win - +21U 0/00/12-24-36 group 1 -- Loss - -14U 1-13-25 group 5 -- Loss - -28U 5-17-29 group 16 -- Win - +66U 4-16-28 group 25 -- Loss - -28U 1-13-25 group change group (*1-5-8-9-*13-17-20-21-*25-27-29-32-36) 34 -- Loss - -39U 10-22-34 group 3 -- Loss - -65U 3-15-27 group 7 -- 7-19-31 group 16 -- 4-16-28 group 1 -- 1-13-25 group 28 -- 4-16-28 group change group (*4-8-11-12-*16-18-20-23-24-*28-30-32-35) 16 -- Win - +184U 4-16-28 group 36 -- Loss - -65U 0/00/12-24-36 group 24 -- Win - +184U 0/00/12-24-36 group change group (*12/0/00-2-16-19-20-*24-27-28-31-32-35-*36) 15 -- Loss - -65U 3-15-27 group 6 -- Loss - -104U 6-18-34 group 34 -- Win - +299U 10-22-34 group Final Unit Count = 743 Starting Unit Count = 200 Starting Bankroll = $1000 Final Bankroll = $3715 Profit = $2715 Profit % = 271.5% thumbs up clothdog you da man

clothdog- 08-10-2007

thanks! I knew that already.Now wait till you see the dozens play I've developed. So you can play these while you wait for a signal. Last night 153 spins-94 wins and 59 losses. Longest runout 5 spins-happened once. Most wins in a row-10. there were only 3-3spin runouts. No four spin. CD

iggy- 08-10-2007

Hi clothdog; WOW !! I can't wait to see your dozens system. Sounds like another winner ................... Kind Regards; iggy

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