Hey Lanky,
¿This last numbers where are they from?
¿RNG or live wheel?
Mate, you are making me to work.
¿Where are the others?
¿I am only the one here?
JLP.-
Oskar- 08-03-2007
Hi guys. I want to tell you, I'm from South America, so my English could not be the best. I'll try to colaborate. I'm trying to prove PIRS in Excel, so that I'll be able to show you my results. For now, I want to tell Chippo "thanks for sharing your PIRS".
Kind regards
Oskar
Chippo- 08-03-2007
Hello, Oskar!
" I want to tell Chippo "thanks for sharing your PIRS""
Nice to hear this word.
I hope the PIRS users will be the most profitable roulette players if they follow the PIRS' guidelines that have been set up.
Good luck!
Chippo.
Lanky- 08-03-2007
I posted this on the other forum
HI Sam
Those are the exact same points that I am trying to make.
If there is the same sector dominant out of 4 or 5 spins ..Is it viable to bet then ???
Instead of waiting 4 the full 6 spins to come???
At the moment & with the 1st -*test*-('") tha JLP did for me there was no dealer.
So is a dealer really needed for this to work ?? My best guess is no at the moment.
The second -*test*-('") should prove that because again there is no dealer involved.
But its a real table with the ball propelled onto the wheel, How I am not sure,by air Is my best guess.
The ball comes out at such a rate that takes approx 16 revolutions before it lands.
The 2nd -*test*-('") that JLP is doing for me is crucial & if successful means that it will work on any type of wheel,machine etc.
Which will help a lot of people all over the world that just can't get to the real casino,s.
Thats the reason why its important that JLP did/do the -*test*-('")s useing his method of play.
That way there can be no doubt because its been done by the same person & useing the same method he uses on all his other -*test*-('")s.
After this last & final -*test*-('") on the numbers from me then we can kick it around as to what,how or where is the best time to bet.
@JLP
Mate this is the last time that I will give you numbers to -*test*-('").
Because these were the only 2 -*test*-('")s needed to prove that it works on all types of roulette Wheels all over the world.
And it was important that I did not do them.
Because now no-one can say that I had any influence on the betting outcome.
Which is real good for CHIPPO to.Because if it works on anything then people cannot say anything against it.
And they will have to give the CHIPPO the credit for it all.
Lanky
Chippo- 08-03-2007
Lanky said:
"Because these were the only 2 -*test*-('")s needed to prove that it works on all types of roulette Wheels all over the world.
And it was important that I did not do them.
Because now no-one can say that I had any influence on the betting outcome.
Which is real good for CHIPPO to.Because if it works on anything then people cannot say anything against it.
And they will have to give the CHIPPO the credit for it all.
Lanky"
Thank you Lanky. You think in the right direction as I have thought. I have said before why many people jumped into the conclusion that I am this, I am that....it's not working, it's priceless, and so on. But I forget it. I know that many people have bought 1,500-2500 for the system that not work, I paid 1,000 and could not get even one dollar back.. If thorough study has been done on PIRS, I am so sure that you can beat the table every time you go to casino, "bet with head, with the guidelines" PIRS can work on any casino, but we have to know when to get in and get out.
Good luck!
Chippo
hammy- 08-03-2007
hammy here, I -*test*-('")ed Chippo's sectors method online RNG at a Microgamimg software casino with real money. I do not live close to a real casino so I play almost always online. However, these results are interesting :
I played with 100 bankroll and chip unit value = 1
S1 0/2, 4, 6, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 25, 27, 32, 34 (12 chips)
S2 0/1, 5/8, 10/11, 16, 20/23, 24, 30/33, 36 (8 chips)
S3 0/3, 7, 9/12, 14, 18, 22, 26/29, 28/31, 35 (9 chips)
I observed 14 spins before betting, here are the sectors of the last 6 spins:
Sect. Sect.
Spun Bet W/L Bankroll 100 units
3
2
1
1
2
2 (start betting dominant sector 2)
2 2 W 110
2 2 W 120
2 2 W 148
2 2 W 158
2 2 W 186
1 2 L 178
1 2 L 170
1 2 L 162 (stop, look for new sector)
3 - - 162
2 - - 162
2 - - 162
1 - - 162 (start betting sector 1)
1 1 W 186
3 1 L 174
2 - - 174 (start betting sector 2)
2 2 W 184
2 2 W 212
0 2 W 222 (maybe a good place to stop ?)
1 2 L 214
3 2 L 206 (decided to stop with doubled bankroll)
3 - - 206
1 - - 206
starting bankroll 100 units
final bankroll 206 units
profit + 106 units (over 100%)
I will post my next session shortly, but so far so good !
regards,
hammy
Chippo- 08-03-2007
That's the way to go, hammy, my mate.
You play smart with the hard-earned-money in order to get the big reward.
But, anyway, the learning process will never end, it's still far to go. We just have known about 10%.
Your success is Chippo's happiness.
Good luck!
Chippo.
hammy- 08-03-2007
thanks for that Chippo !
Here is my next session :
I played with 100 bankroll and chip unit value = 1
S1 0/2, 4, 6, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 25, 27, 32, 34 (12 chips)
S2 0/1, 5/8, 10/11, 16, 20/23, 24, 30/33, 36 (8 chips)
S3 0/3, 7, 9/12, 14, 18, 22, 26/29, 28/31, 35 (9 chips)
I observed 14 spins before betting, here are the sectors of the last 6 spins:
Sect. Sect.
Spun Bet W/L Bankroll (100 units)
2
3
1
1
1
3 (start betting on sector 1)
2 1 L 88
2 1 L 76
1 1 W 100
2 1 L 88 (start betting on sector 2)
2 2 W 98
1 2 L 90
3 2 L 82
2 2 W 110
2 2 W 120
2 2 W 148
2 2 W 158
2 2 W 168
1 2 L 160
3 2 L 152
2 2 W 180
3 2 L 172
2 2 W 182
0 2 W 192
3 2 L 184
3 2 L 176 (start betting on sector 3)
2 3 L 167
2 3 L 158 (start betting on sector 2)
2 2 W 168
1 2 L 160
2 2 W 188
2 2 W 198
1 2 L 190
2 2 W 200 (stop , doubled bankroll )
1 - - 200
3 - - 200
3 - - 200
2 - - 200
I like to keep the sessions short for online play, plus my target is reached.
Starting Bankroll 100 units
Final Bankroll 200 units
Profit +100 units (100% bankroll)
Another pretty good result guys, I think we can take this system seriously.
I will keep you all posted on the next session's results.
Kimo Li- 08-03-2007
Hello Chippo,
Let me introduce my self. My name is Kimo Li. This is my first post
It appears your system share similar perspectives, although I am not quick to give out holy grail information.
I would love to read about your system. I am also willing to share mine.
In your discussion, you describe a strategy I call the Pendulum, page 101.
Have you read my book? I am not suggesting that you had taken the idea. I am wondering if we have similar minds.
Chippo- 08-04-2007
Hammy:
And another win with double bankroll, what a smart play.
You are the real student with real money on the bets.
Congratulations,
Chippo.
Hi, Kimo Li:
You said"
"It appears your system share similar perspectives, although I am not quick to give out holy grail information.
I would love to read about your system. I am also willing to share mine.
In your discussion, you describe a strategy I call the Pendulum, page 101.
Have you read my book? I am not suggesting that you had taken the idea. I am wondering if we have similar minds."
I, personally would like to make my PIRS as the best system that can beat the wheel. As you have read this thread, it becomes clear that my system works.
I have never read this book, but the whole system of mine has been born from many factors. If you know the whole system, you will be very surprised how I created it, all in all with my own mind by observation and some studies.
Maybe we have similar mind and similar focus. I cannot say anything else more. If you would like to contact me, PM or by email, then we can discuss more.
Regards,
Chippo
JLP- 08-04-2007
Hi CHIPPO & LANKY,
HERE LANKY IS THE 2ND TEST OF YOUR NUMBERSPIRS CHIPPO SYSTEM TEST No.9
Well, making a resume of the sectors that Chippo stated and putting the numbers from low to high we have the following and also trying to see the reference in the layout :
-S1 = 0 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 (13 numbers)
-S2 = 1 5 8 10 11 16 20 23 24 30 33 36 (12 numbers)
-S3 = 0 3 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 28 29 31 35 (13 numbers)
So I chose the following for the estructure of the different betting of the sectors :
-S1 = (0/2) 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 ( 12 chips)
-S2 = (0/1) 5 8 10 11 16 20 23 24 30 33 36 ( 12 chips) ------- > MAKE A CHANGE HERE ( ADD ZERO)
-S3 = (0/3) 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 29 28 31 35 ( 12 chips)
So make another -*test*-('") with Lanky´s numbers with the following table limits :
TABLE No......
TABLE MIN = 0.5 TO 10 ON INSIDE NUMBERS
LEADER .....
INITIAL BANKROLL = 500
UNIT CHIP = 5
No. SPUN SECTOR W/L I.B. F.B.
29 S3
5 S2
1 S2
13 S1
23 S2
33 S2 -------- > NUMBERS SPUN IN THE INDICATOR BEFORE I ENTER THE GAME
12 S3
3 S3
0 --
12 S3
30 S2 ------- > HERE AT MY 11 NUMBERS 3S3, 3S2 SO NO BET (ZERO NOT COUNT FOR ANY SECTOR)
12 S3
Here in the last 6 spins we have 4 S3, 2 S2 so we bet S3 according to Chippo´s rule.
6 S1 L 440 440
13 S1 L 380 380 STOP AT 2L
30 S2 -- 380 380 ------ > 2 S3, 2 S2 , 2 S1 NO BET
10 S2 -- 380 380 ------ > NOW BET S2
23 S2 W 320 500
19 S1 L 440 440 ------ > NO BET 3 S1, 3 S2
35 S3 -- 440 440 ------ > NOW BET S2
1 S2 W 380 560
2 S1 L 500 500
36 S2 W 440 620 ------ > I COULD QUIT HERE (HIT & RUN) ACCORDING TO CHIPPO
22 S3 L 560 560 ------ > NO BET 2 S1, 2 S2, 2 S3
31 S3 -- 560 560 ------ > NOW BET S3
2 S1 L 500 500 ------ > NO BET 2 S1, 2 S2 , 2 S3
28 S3 -- 500 500 ------ > NOW BET S3 ...... 1ST MINIGAME (NO PROFIT)
21 S1 L 440 440
15 S1 -- 440 440 ------ > NO BET 3 S3, 3 S1
30 S2 -- 440 440 ------ > NOW BET S1
22 S3 L 380 380
14 S3 -- 380 380 ------ > NOW BET S3
21 S1 L 320 320
15 S1 -- 320 320 ------ > NOW BET S1
4 S1 W 260 440
7 S3 L 380 380
6 S1 W 320 500
34 S1 W 440 620
34 S1 W 560 740 ------- > I COULD QUIT HERE
22 S3 L 680 680
1 S2 L 620 620 STOP AT 2L & WAIT
18 S3 -- 620 620 ......... 2ND MINIGAME (PROFIT 120)
25 S1 W 560 740
27 S1 W 680 860
20 S2 L 800 800
15 S1 W 740 920
13 S1 W 860 1040
22 S3 L 980 980
34 S1 W 920 1100
7 S3 L 1040 1040
24 S2 L 980 980 STOP 2L
8 S2 -- 980 980 ------ > 2 S3, 2 S2 , 2 S1 NO BET
10 S2 -- 980 980 ------ > NOW BET S2
1 S2 W 920 1100
26 S3 L 1040 1040
5 S2 W 980 1160 ------ > I COULD QUIT HERE ........... 3RD MINIGAME (PROFIT 540)
4 S1 L 1100 1100
29 S3 L 1040 1040 STOP 2L
29 S3 -- 1040 1040
20 S2 -- 1040 1040 ------ > NOW BET S3
33 S2 L 980 980
34 S1 -- 980 980 ------ > NO BET 2 S1, 2 S2 , 2 S3
18 S3 -- 980 980 ------ > NOW BET S3
29 S3 W 920 1100
32 S1 L 1040 1040
19 S1 L 980 980 STOP 2L
30 S2 -- 980 980
11 S2 -- 980 980 ------ > NO BET 2 S3, 2 S2, 2 S1
17 S1 -- 980 980 ------ > NOW BET S1
36 S2 L 920 920 ------ > NO BET 3 S1, 3 S2
9 S3 -- 920 920 ...... 4TH MINIGAME (NO PROFIT)
32 S1 -- 920 920 ------ > NOW BET S2
18 S3 L 860 860
19 S1 -- 860 860
3 S3 -- 860 860 ------ > NOW BET S3
0 -- W 800 890
1 S2 L 830 830
1 S2 L 770 770 STOP 2L
7 S3 -- 770 770 ------ > NOW BET S3
12 S3 W 710 890
28 S3 W 830 1010 ------ > I COULD QUIT HERE
21 S1 L 950 950
30 S2 L 890 890 STOP 2L
5 S2 -- 890 890 ------ > NOW BET S3
0 -- W 830 920 ------ > THAT´S ENOUGH - STOP HERE ...... END 5TH MINIGAME
Following numbers for reference :
10 S2 -
34 S1 -
22 S3 -
17 S1 -
12 S3 -
RESUME OF PRESENT SESSION :
89 NUMBERS SPUN
47 SPINS EFFECTIVELY PLAYED WITH 19 WINS AND 28 LOSSES
FLAT BETTING, NO PROGRESSION
FINAL BANKROLL = 920
PROFIT = 420
MAX. DRAWDOWN = 240 (AT 260 - SPIN No.23)
ESTRUCTURE OF SECTORS IN THE CURRENT SESSION =
SECTOR 1 = 29
SECTOR 2 = 27 ------- > FROM HERE WE TAKE NO SECTOR IS PREDOMINANT ( ALMOST 1/3,1/3,1/3)
SECTOR 3 = 31
ZERO = 2
NOTES ON THE PRESENT SESSION :
-THIS WAS A TABLE MORE HARD & DIFFICULT (¿MAYBE RNG SOFTWARE?).
-FROM THE ABOVE TABLE NO SECTOR IS PREDOMINANT SO THAT CAN EXPLAIN IT.
-APPARENTLY MORE RANDOM NUMBERS SPUN WHERE NO DEALER SIGNATURE IS RECOGNIZED.
-IN LARGE SESSION I TOOK THE IDEA OF DIVIDING THE GAME IN VARIOUS MINIGAMES OF 15 SPINS AND TRY TO GO AHEAD.
IDEA TAKEN AFTER READING "IN THIS WAY PLAYS GEORGE THE SYSTEMIST" FROM THE SPANISH FORUM.
MAYBE I TRANSLATE IT TO ENGLISH AND POST IT IN ANOTHER THREAD.
-¿SO CHIPPO & LANKY, SAM, AND ALL WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
-WE MUST GET SOME FINAL RULES FOR THE L, STOP L, JUMP OUT, PROGRESSION OR NOT, ETC.
BUT......., SURE IT WINS CHIPPO!!!!!!!!
JLP.-
Lanky- 08-04-2007
HI JLP
You are just incredible mate with all the work & -*test*-('")ing you do for the Forum.
No mate not RNG it was a self propelled ball that flies out around the wheel about 16 times before it lands
What you have just done JLP is prove to everybody all over the world that CHIPPO"S system works on all types of roulette wheels or machines.
It works on dealer wheels & non dealer wheels
And that has been backed up from HAMMY too
CHIPPO from Canada (does live dealers)
HAMMY from Canada (does only Rng)
Lanky from Australia (does all 3)
JLP from somewher? tell us mate.(does Live dealers)
The only problem we have is what to do with the betting.
Do we flat bet them Or do we do a small progression like 1 1 1 2 etc
Do we stop after 2 losses or keep betting & if so for how long ??
Do we just concentrate on one section like number 2 or not ??
Hammy appears to have kept betting.
Come on CHIPPO what would you do
Would you flat bet or progress ??
Anyway these are Questions that everybody here on the Forum can have a go at answering.
Once again thank you Jlp for all the effort & time my Mate
Lanky
xandrew- 08-04-2007
hi there mates..
i've been studying chippo's sistem for a few days now, and finally after a couple of "dublinbet" roulette games ( profit made in every game ), i've decided to -*test*-('") it in real casino ( but without dealer )
i don't have time to write step by step progress, i'll do that in my next review ( i'm going on vacation, so it's gonna be in about 2 weeks )..
i've started with 500$ bankroll, one unit was 5$ ..
my lowest bankroll was 320$, and i've quit after i was @ 870$ ( my goal ) ..
31 spun game, lasted for about 30-40 minutes ...
tnx chippo for this, and tnx to all other -*test*-('")ers :)
bb
ikaros- 08-04-2007
Ok Jlp and all guys, let me help.
Give me some set of rules and I will try them all.
I would like if someguy could give me some real spins in Excel or Text format. When I say "some" I mean many as I am going to code this system.
Jlp you could say that 1 set of rules is (e.g)
a)Stop at x maximum profit
b)Stop at 2L
c)Stop at 15 spins maximum for the session....etc
The second set of rules could be
a)Stop at y maximum profit
b)Don't stop at 2L
and so on....
So please set some set of rules and I will try them at as many spins as you like!
Come on guys!
Gamlet- 08-04-2007
HI JLP
You are just incredible mate with all the work & -*test*-('")ing you do for the Forum.
No mate not RNG it was a self propelled ball that flies out around the wheel about 16 times before it lands
What you have just done JLP is prove to everybody all over the world that CHIPPO"S system works on all types of roulette wheels or machines.
It works on dealer wheels & non dealer wheels
And that has been backed up from HAMMY too
CHIPPO from Canada (does live dealers)
HAMMY from Canada (does only Rng)
Lanky from Australia (does all 3)
JLP from somewher? tell us mate.(does Live dealers)
The only problem we have is what to do with the betting.
Do we flat bet them Or do we do a small progression like 1 1 1 2 etc
Do we stop after 2 losses or keep betting & if so for how long ??
Do we just concentrate on one section like number 2 or not ??
Hammy appears to have kept betting.
Come on CHIPPO what would you do
Would you flat bet or progress ??
Anyway these are Questions that everybody here on the Forum can have a go at answering.
Once again thank you Jlp for all the effort & time my Mate
Lanky
Hi Lanky
At a forum I told my method of game similar to system Chippo. I at once knew, that will work on the automatic device to a roulette because I play a similar method on the automatic device to a roulette almost one year. But I wish to tell to you, what not on all automatic devices the method can work well. I search for the automatic device a wheel, I write down 350 spins from this automatic device, I come home, I analyze and after that if the analysis positive, next day I go to play on this automatic device!
I wish to tell, that each 2 of 3 automatic devices are suitable for game. In occasion of a progression, it is not desirable to play a progression in general, Even if you will lose (without a progression) all over again after a while it will be easy to you to return the money. In the beginning of my game I played with small progressions, but have then seen what to return loss at the first stage, more difficultly. I play without a progression
You on a correct way guys! :)
Cheers,
Gamlet.
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