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Same question for the Wizard of Oz
Come out from behind the smoke and mirrors and answer the question. "Oz never did give nuthin to the Tin Man...." Let me make it simple for you using your analogy. You're giving directions, but you're on the ocean. Where do you tell them to turn left? At the dead whale being eaten by the gulls? Naturally, since the sea is BLANK, you use the stars. But you use something. So you doge the question by telling every how brilliant they are. If YOU are so brilliant, YOU answer the question: Blank wheel; blank table..... How do you know where to place the puck?? The Scarecrow awaits..........

Gimmie a break........
So you would look at the wheel and just decide 0 had hit and just happen to know 0 is at the top of the table. Even you can beat that. What about the second number? Is it a 34? Well, we can call it 34 since the wheel is blank and since the table is in numerical order, we know right where it goes: 1st column, 12th street. WOW.... Puff that smoke, Wizard!! Sam

Yes, please, somone, anyone.......
Explain to me how you place the puck on a blank table after spinning a blank wheel. I'd love it! Here's a post on the Roulette Forum: "I have recently inquired into Trafford Publishing company as I suspected they were a vanity press. If you have enough vanity to spend the money, they will publish your book. Understand, this is not a publisher, per se. This is an “on demand” publisher. You get your books cheaper if you buy 50 or more at a time. That’s right, you have to buy your own books. So, do not be impressed by people who tout and sell books. You and I could write our own book and buy a bunch of copies and either sell them or use them to start fires in the fireplace, as someone suggested." So tell me, Mr. Li........ Did they pay you to publish your book or did you pay them? Have some pie, Mr. Li! Sam

hi twocat, you are right, knowone would no where to put the puck. BUT THAT IS THE MAIN POINT , THE NUMBERS ON THE WHEEL AND THE LAYOUT MEAN NOTHING,THERE ONLY PURPUS IS TO LET US KNOW WHERE TO PUT THE PUCK. HOPE THIS HELPS TWOCAT,

Crying for help, are we?
Well, it's time in this farce for the questioned to begin pointing out how stupid the questioner is. Victor can ban me, censure me, scold me........I don't care. RAY made a totally idiotic statement about a blank wheel and a blank table and you yelled "BINGO". What you both are saying is, in effect, since there are no numbers to worry about--why we can just make up our own set of sectors and arrowheads and boomerangs and have a ball. But, in the real world, you don't get to make up the numbers from whole cloth. The wheel produces numbers Sam

Re: Crying for help, are we?
Well, it's time in this farce for the questioned to begin pointing out how stupid the questioner is. Victor can ban me, censure me, scold me........I don't care. RAY made a totally idiotic statement about a blank wheel and a blank table and you yelled "BINGO". What you both are saying is, in effect, since there are no numbers to worry about--why we can just make up our own set of sectors and arrowheads and boomerangs and have a ball. But, in the real world, you don't get to make up the numbers from whole cloth. The wheel produces numbers Sam TWOCAT, THE WHEEL DOES NOT PRODUCE NUMBERS, IT PRODUCES PATTERNS ON A GRID OF 36 SQUARS, THE NUMBERS ARE ONLY USED AS MARKERS. NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING THEY ARE ONLY A GIUDE TO THE PATTERNS. DID YOU READ MY LAST POST.

Let's chill. This isn't GG!
Hey guys! Let's take it easy! There is room for every side of the coin. Roulette can be faced a mechanical device OR it can be faced as a random number generator. We are all grown-ups and we can settle like adults. No need for me to be telling how to behave, you all guys know. I get RAY's point. I get SAM's point. I do not get why the argument in this thread when there is plenty of space outside the "full books" section!. I have opened a new thread named "BLANK WHEEL. Roulette as a mechanical device" for the discussion of roulette as a "strictly mechanical device" to continue. I think our dear readers want kimo to keep on posting the book in peace. Let's continue talking about this approach in the new thread. Kimo, big apologies and please continue with the sharing. Guys. All I ask is any non GPM-related comment to be done over the new thread about roulette as a device only: forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=2488" target="_blank">http://vlsroulette.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=2488 I think that is fair. I have my own opinion about the wheel and "pocket labels" (i.e. could be numbers or letters...). Let's continue over there! Regards. Victor.

My two cents
I have been looking at devices to see patterns for more than 12 years now. I used half the wheel sets of numbers and all kinds of spoked shapes. I have even looked at shapes in the table layout. In all my computer -*test*-('")s I ended up stepping back to see a bigger picture. Now I haven't read any of this thread because I see the bigger picture. If Kimo Li is trying to tell you about the bigger picture then fine. If Kimo Li has not seen the bigger picture but is fixated on the belief that these shapes hold some kind of universal significance, especially being that he might have some eastern / Asian spiritual beliefs then fine about that too. He has the right to sell what he knows. He might be trying to teach about the significance of direction as believed by many who have a Chinese superstition about evil spirits and luck. I have no idea. The big picture is this. When you go looking to see something like a pattern in a layout or pattern of spins hitting at a frequency or fabulous order of things, all you are doing is using a specified rule to confirm what you are focused on. In every instance of a conformation you have three states. One it is working, two it is not working, it is bouncing between working and not working. These three states have three attributes attached to them, they begin, exists for a time, and finally come to an end. If you don't believe me it's because you are not yet done being fixated on the existence of a phenomenon or pattern. You can -*test*-('") for this. Just apply my bigger picture values on your favorite Gold Standard system. It is in having a great plan regarding the respect for these values that gives you the edge that you are searching for. I know this sounds like dogma but it is also a revelation of perspective. That is why Kimo Li has the right to believe and tell what he knows. He is revealing the stage of his gambling development. I find that very interesting to say the least. So what that he sells it. That's interesting too. Mark

HI GIZMOTRON, JUST WANTED TO KNOW,HAVE YOU READ KIMO'S BOOKS OR STUDIED ANY OF THE GPM.

Why I haven't read Kimo Li's books
HI GIZMOTRON, JUST WANTED TO KNOW,HAVE YOU READ KIMO'S BOOKS OR STUDIED ANY OF THE GPM. I'm studying gambling issues, so called gambling addiction, problem gambling, "Natural Cure" regarding problem gambling and the DSM4 description of "gambling addiction or problem gambling." I do this because the biggest scam of all is the treatment for gambling addiction as it is practiced in America today. It is my hypotheses that a problem gambler is just a person that is stuck. Like being stuck in the middle of a stream wanting to get across that stream. I'm attempting to illustrate that getting to the other side in the mind of the gambler is having a winning strategy that guarantees winning results. The current process for treatment is to turn the person around in the middle of the stream and to force that person back to starting side in shame. This works very badly for the gambler. It makes the gambler experience unfulfillment and shame. No wonder the cure doesn't work. I propose research be done to prove that "Natural Cure" can be achieved by helping the problem gambler across the stream. I was going to attempt to do this by creating software to -*test*-('") systems so that the problem gambler can learn. In this way the problem gambler stays focused on the end goal and in fact ends up on the other side no longer stuck. I'm more impressed with the notion that discussing systems in a forum might do just as well. I'm convinced that a person will not believe something about the search for a winning solution unless they experience it for themselves. They can't just take some other persons opinion. I thought that by experiencing roulette from a computer -*test*-('") mode might help. Psychologists have a big stake in the game in that they are getting paid for screwing peoples minds over. In this single subject of problem gambling they try to apply addiction treatment. I say addiction treatment for gambling problems is as practical as shock treatments where for other mental ailments. The cat is out of the bag. Some honest psychologists have done an authentic experiment with research proving that the existence of "Natural Cure" is real. So what has this to do with KIMO'S BOOKS? I don't read them because I have already spent 1000 of hours researching cutting the wheel into pie shaped parts. My conclusion is that this leads to seeing, when focused on them, that the information that one can use with a betting system is only one approach among thousands of possible approaches to placing bets within the rules of a betting system. I have not considered that Kimo Li is also explaining the strange and possibly spiritual or supernatural forces of the universe in conjunction with direction and spaces. That would be a new one. Not to a Chinese person though perhaps. I hope that this helps you understand why I don't invest the time to read his books. Mark

Mark Long have I studied gamblers, some with problems. Consider this: Many of them don't want to be cured. I'm sure you knew that. The famous (or infamous) Dr. X once said, "The cure for a problem gambler is to become a winning gambler." From that premise he scammed thousands out of thousands. He is the worst of the worst and would (if alive) sue me for every penny Kimo Li thinks I have if I should mention his name. He was a PhD and he used the psychology on the flock. A virtual Jim Jones. Sam

Mark Long have I studied gamblers, some with problems. Consider this: Many of them don't want to be cured. I'm sure you knew that. It's true. People will sit mindlessly at a machine throwing money after the excitement of a win no matter what happens. Unfortunately this pastime often does not fall within the guidelines for assessing one as a problem gambler in the DSMIV. When they bet the rent and food money then there is a very big problem. Just look at all those machines out there on the floor. It's amazing. You will notice that I'm discussing with those that are thinking about Roulette strategies. This group is smarter than that group. I could not find anything on this Dr. X. Could you provide a link or a full name for this individual please. The famous (or infamous) Dr. X once said, "The cure for a problem gambler is to become a winning gambler." From that premise he scammed thousands out of thousands. He is the worst of the worst and would (if alive) sue me for every penny Kimo Li thinks I have if I should mention his name. He was a PhD and he used the psychology on the flock. A virtual Jim Jones. Sam Mark P.S. Oops, what a dumbsht. You left his name off on purpose.

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