TwoCatSam doing JLP.-'s study of Chippo's System @ Dublinbet
Greetings I seem to be obsessed with JLP.-‘s study of the Dublinbet wheel using Chippo’s system. I have downloaded some screen capture software and it seems to work. I can let it record about three hours worth of wheel spinning and then burn it to CD and fast forward it on my TV. I will use the following as my sectors: Sector one: 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 Sector two: 1 5 8 10 11 16 20 23 24 30 33 36 Sector three: 0 3 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 28 29 31 35 I know this is a tad different from JLP.- as he had two zeros. Also, I will bet one unit on each number when three of the sectors appear within the last six spins. I will not bet if there are two sectors with three each. I will stop betting when two loses in a row appear and begin again with the formation of a new sector or a continuation of the old one. I will stop betting with each new dealer and wait for a new dominant sector to form after dealer change. I will try to run 100 numbers at a trot and post my findings. My study should mirror JLP.-‘s to a large extent. Because of betting one unit on each number and not betting splits, my winnings would be more and my losses also. As long as my hard drive allows, I will archive the movies if anyone wants them. How I would get them to you, I don’t know! I ain’t gonna pay the postage, that’s for sure!! Sam

How I would get them to you Google video perhaps?

www.megaupload.com its free and all you have to do is post the link and we can download from it for free :)

I am using this software called Camtasia. I left it running two hours today and a freakin' pop-up popped up right in front of the wheel and stayed there!! So I've learned to move the wheel over to the corner and just capture a portion of it. I will try the upload, microdata. I'm going to run this thing all night tonight and see if I can capture a few good spins. Sam

I have a couple of other upload sites as well so let me know if you need other sources.

Microdata. You a very good person You are alwys shareing & helping others. Good on ya Mate Lanky

I Won
Hi There I only register here at 5am gmt last night (very tired) I have just -*test*-('") your system at dublin bet... good sectors... Here's my results 11 spins..... spin 1 - sector 3 (no bet) spin 2 - sector 3 (no bet) spin 3 - sector 2 (no bet) spin 4 - sector 3 (i see sector 3 for the 3rd time, so i place £1 on all sector 3 numbers) spin 5 - sector 3 (win + 36) spin 6 - sector 3 (win + 36) spin 7 - sector 2 (loose, continue to bet £1 per no on sector 3) spin 8 - sector 3 (win + 36) spin 9 - sectpor 3 (win + 36) spin 10 - sector 3 (win + 36) spin 11 - sector 3 (win + 36) so i make profit of £209 in approx 15 mins very good... i try at other table soon and give feedback again

Sam, why bother. Your time is well spent doing something else. You could have another 3 hours of video with different results. What's that going to prove? I would take it on merit from what people have done here and accept the results and move on. You could do the same thing with my systems and it wouldn't prove a thing. Even with my system the only way to double your money consistently is fold it in half. Clothdog

Why bother?
clothdog The first reason I will "bother" is that the study of roulette is my hobby. Yes, I have lots of yard work after the rains, but I can't work non-stop out there in the heat. I get as much pleasure from studying new systems as I do sitting down and making money with Gamlet's. I have a comfortable little retirement and very few wants. "A man is wealthy in direct proportion to the number of things he can let alone." Thoreau. I have learned to let most everything alone and am happier for it. I believe in study groups and in one investigator finding the exact same results from a study as another while using the same methods. In my opinion, only a fool would accept another person's study as gospel and bet money on it. On the other hand, if I should duplicate JLP.-'s study and show similar winnings, that would strengthen his position. I have not found what you say to be true about this batch of spins and that one being totally different. Through the collection of my own spins, I can pretty much tell when a system is having wild luck and sorry luck. I can also tell when a system is running very close to zero or in the red or black just slightly over a thousand spins. That is the system to investigate. This old saw about "jump in and jump out" just doesn't work. Jump in, FIND A REASON TO BET, and then bet and jump out. Victor taught us that. I am curious about you. Here I have offered to do a study and post the results. I have offered to archive the spin movies so anyone who wishes can download them and -*test*-('") my study to see if I made mistakes. I am openly saying I want to be studied as I do the study! All of my posts were for the good of the forum and the members. For whose good were your posts? Yes, I intend to use the numbers to -*test*-('") yours and other systems that are being bandied about right now. I haven't heard a negative word from JLP or Chippo. You are the only one saying I shouldn't peek under the rock. I wonder why.....? Sam

Hi Sam, Well on you for doing this -*test*-('")s of CHIPPO´S system. The more -*test*-('")ing the better as in that way we can all learn from other -*test*-('")ers. There are many roulette systems to -*test*-('") and very little time to cover them all. I have been studying the system of George The Systemist based on two demos published and am trying to reconstruct it and is also another system of the Enygmist from the italian forum based on betting of the Pascal Triangle. In this last one we wait for 24 numbers and see if odd or even is predominant and bet on them for ex. only odds or even : Bet for 3 spins with progression. Ex. Numbers to bet : 2 4 6 8 10 12 ----- > 2 spaces between numbers even or 3 5 7 9 11 13 ----- > 2 spaces between numbers odd ¿But how he defines the numbers to bet?Still studying. Very interesting. BUT TOO MANY SYSTEMS, NO???? Hey Sam, will see for your findings And Sam don´t forget that Chippo says is a Hit and Run system, make some punchs and jabs and quit. Don´t force it too much. JLP.-

Sam, If you want to be studied, send us a naked picture of youself in a smoking jacket with a pipe looking at the roulette table with chips in hand! LOL. Seriously. If you have that extra time go ahead. the wheel at dublinbet is not the same as the ones I play at the casino here in Niagara falls. In fact, I do better at certain wheels than others. I've -*test*-('")ed systems for over a thousand spins on dublinbet, get good results and go to the falls and have it fall flat. So what does that mean? We know balls hit in certain sectors over a period of time. they have to. You're a scholar and a gentleman to do this and no offense certainly, but I think your time is well spent doing other things other than yard work and trying to reinvent the wheel. Just my opinion. Now go -*test*-('")! :) CD

"Hit and Run" betting.............
JLP.- I am still undecided about "hit and run" betting. I prefer "sit down/log on, wait for a trigger that tells me to bet, bet, and get out". Maybe that's what you guys are talking about. I mean, we can jump in, play a huge Martingale, win and get out. We may do that ten times in a row. Then we jump in and get all blacks and lose it all back and then some. And I'm always mindful of my "new eyes" theory. What if, after I have won and jumped out, you come along and on the next number you start to bet the same system? You are "new eyes on the wheel". If you win, I would have won had I stayed. If you lose, we must question the system. Consider this quote: "A form of insanity to doing the same thing over and over and expecting a new result." Now, turn it around...... "Doing the same thing over and over and getting a positive result is what makes the wheels turn." (OK, the second quote is mine!) I have finally figured out this darn software and how to make my Spy Ware leave it alone, so I should be getting some numbers to work with soon. clothdog Gamlet says that one system will work on a wheel and not the next wheel. I realize this. I have two systems which work very, very well on the Suite332 wheel. That is a John Huxley. The wheel at Dublin is also a Huxley. Wouldn't it be a hoot to see if the systems which work at 332 also work at Dublin? And then any other Huxley wheel of the same design? And I will posit one more thing: One can never know whether it's the wheel or whether it's just not your night. Even my best systems leave me cold sometimes. The next day, they are back to winning. Oh, yes, it can be the same dealer or not. VLS teaches us things come in waves. I firmly believe that. Sam

I have tracked the waves, ridden the waves, made profit from such clumps of events... but they are a fallacy, things only come as math says -of course, they forget to mention that’s for the long run, which is the casino’s game, not the SHORT RUN, which is what we –the punters- actually play ;-) Guys, I'm experiencing this: - The way to win consistently is to know at which "place" of the wave you are. This is DEAD EASY to spot if you use the "timeline fallacy". It can only be like this: 1) Coming as expected by math (i.e. tracked dozen every 3 spins, tracked line every 6 spins, etc.). 2) Coming above the expected. 3) Coming less than expected. It is actually a "no brainer": - You back those numbers/locations/events only if 1 and 2 (at or above expected), and hold it till “3)” –till it skips a cycle and passes to be less than expected. - You totally never, ever enter backing up ANYTHING when it is at 3 –Not coming at or above expected. -------- This is the core of a successful strategy, to take advantage of the situation, be it wheel sections, "events" (such as "last dozen/column or line spun repeats", etc.), patterns… you name it. -------- Another “no brainer” is how to modify the amount of money laid at the table. You try to profit flat betting, but if you need to progress, then proceed by taking the risk at a “positive” tram only, when you are “riding the positive wave for whatever event you are using. --------- I’m experiencing a bit with “dynamic wheel sections”. The wheel doesn’t know how you “split it”. It doesn’t know how you label the “sectors”. If you can play a 12 number sector when consistently coming 1 every 3 spins (or better), then you can play a “dynamic” 12-number sector which is the best 12-number consecutive group at the wheel for the previous 3 spins and apply the same as intended for the previously fixed set of numbers. The most important thing I’m realizing is you can’t be stiff, neither with money management nor how you handle the situation... but this goes at the “Gambling framework” arena... Regards, Victor.

Nine kinds of hell........
Guys.. I am finding that working with screen recording software makes playing roulette mere child's play. I have been aggravated to the point of no return. But I have returned and have finally found a software that works and records in triple speed so I can flash numbers on the screen from Dublinbet at the rate of about a hundred every two or three minutes. (Yes, I can write that fast!) So eventually I will get on with this study and post some results. Don't hold your breath! Samster