TwoCatSam doing JLP.-'s study of Chippo's System @ Dublinbet

Re: "Hit and Run" betting.............
JLP.- I am still undecided about "hit and run" betting. I prefer "sit down/log on, wait for a trigger that tells me to bet, bet, and get out". Maybe that's what you guys are talking about. I mean, we can jump in, play a huge Martingale, win and get out. We may do that ten times in a row. Then we jump in and get all blacks and lose it all back and then some. And I'm always mindful of my "new eyes" theory. What if, after I have won and jumped out, you come along and on the next number you start to bet the same system? You are "new eyes on the wheel". If you win, I would have won had I stayed. If you lose, we must question the system. Consider this quote: "A form of insanity to doing the same thing over and over and expecting a new result." Now, turn it around...... "Doing the same thing over and over and getting a positive result is what makes the wheels turn." (OK, the second quote is mine!) I have finally figured out this darn software and how to make my Spy Ware leave it alone, so I should be getting some numbers to work with soon. clothdog Gamlet says that one system will work on a wheel and not the next wheel. I realize this. I have two systems which work very, very well on the Suite332 wheel. That is a John Huxley. The wheel at Dublin is also a Huxley. Wouldn't it be a hoot to see if the systems which work at 332 also work at Dublin? And then any other Huxley wheel of the same design? And I will posit one more thing: One can never know whether it's the wheel or whether it's just not your night. Even my best systems leave me cold sometimes. The next day, they are back to winning. Oh, yes, it can be the same dealer or not. VLS teaches us things come in waves. I firmly believe that. Sam Sam , numbers go as a fish - jambs! Some numbers arrives, some numbers lag behind a jamb! Then there comes time when many numbers arrive and many numbers lag behind is I name " Total updating of a jamb "! Then again there is a slow updating a jamb. The method FIRE catches new numbers and their neighbours which arrive! Fire catches a new wave which arrives slowly! The method the ICE catches numbers during " Total updating " ! If we play during the moderate updating numbers = it will be good to work FIRE! If we play during Total updating numbers = it will be good to work the ICE! Now about a wheel! Some wheels have a short piece from the moderate updating before Total updating numbers! Other wheels have the big piece from moderated up to total updating numbers. When you find a wheel about a greater piece of updating of numbers, you can apply one of methods and successfully win during many spins! Wheel! It is very interesting theme which deserves a separate Topic! On a wheel depends much! Even if to take two wheels made by one firm, we can have different results! The ball which rotates, too has great value! If on the same wheel to change a ball, we shall have absolutely different results! Many even can think, that have changed a wheel! I am going to open a new Topic in which I shall give the information concerning wheels and balls. I hope it will benefit some members of a forum! Gamlet.

Gamlet I always wish to read your posts. You are very informed. I have much to learn about wheels. Yes, open a new thread! Sam Gamlet Я всегда желаю прочитать ваши столбы. Вы очень информативно. Я имею много, котор нужно выучить о колесах. Да, раскройте новую резьбу! Sam

FIRST REPORT ON THE CHIPPO METHOD
I captured 117 spins from Dublinbet today. Ran them through the Chippo system exactly as explained in the first post of this thread. I had a +3 unit outcome. While this is only the first hundred (roughly), I am not seeing clumps of sectors as JLP.- reported. At first I saw a bad run of losers which only pulled out and into the positive within the last 33 spins of the trot. I will use the same numbers to -*test*-('") other systems. If anyone wants the video, I will upload it if I can. It is in triple speed, so you must use some method to stop the screen and write down the numbers. It is very easy as the numbers are added to the marquis at the rate of about one per second. Sam

Re: FIRST REPORT ON THE CHIPPO METHOD
I captured 117 spins from Dublinbet today. Ran them through the Chippo system exactly as explained in the first post of this thread. I had a +3 unit outcome. Sam What a little, sam. ¿Only +3 units at the end? ¿In previous spins, until the 117, you were more up or not? JLP.-

Look...
Look Guys.... ill be very honest with you... i can have £100 to £200 gbp... im looking for a good system that will minimise my chance of loss... im not looking to become a millionaire... i would like to make maybe up to £1000 gbp amd i will be VERY HAPPY! I am not asking the earth... I do honestly look up to you guys for kind words, support, answers.. guidance... whats your best systems? and do you have any tips or advice for me... where to play etc etc

JLP.- Mostly, in this trot, I was down a lot. Not until I had the nearly-twenty winners in row towards the end, did I pull out. This was only a hundred numbers or so. I am not making a judgment at this time. ANY system can have a bad run. I would just like for my study to mirror yours. If I find I am not getting your results, I will post the numbers I used and perhaps you will take a look at them. Sam

"Er, I'll have one Earth to go, please!"
Oshady You are practically asking for the Earth. Do a search on the VLS Methodology and read what has been written. Read everything I wrote about the Gamlet Methodology. Both of these will win if you do your homework and learn how to use them. I have made sheets to use with the Gamlet Methodology and will forward them if you PM me an e-mail. The Gamlet methodology works. The rest is up to you. I play at Suite332.com. Good online casino. Sam

Not the earth!
I say OShady is not asking for the earth, he just wants directions :wink: Now, OShady, the first things I'd say: 1) Get your numbers straight. "i can have £100 to £200 gbp..." => "i would like to make maybe up to £1000 gbp" It would be more realistic the other way around: £1000 to make => £100/£200. 2) Don't be close minded and think those percentages suck for a return in a session. How many times do you think possible to get $100 to the casino and parlay your wins to make $1000? Yes, you got it! Not many. This means the key word is "REPEAT". And you have more chances to repeat the feat of a conservative return instead of looking for a 500% return each session to stop for the day. A system giving you a fair 20% return which you can repeat is valuable. If you average successful 6 times a session with 20% return per each sinking, hey! That's business. 3) For system -*test*-('")ing, get a copy of roulette xtreme: http://www.uxsoftware.com I am now -*test*-('")ing the averages game approach, I have posted the starting framework here: - forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=178" target="_blank">http://vlsroulette.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=178 You can help me -*test*-('") this. If it goes OK we can both benefit with a steady source of income. Remember, as of today I'm more into gambling for a living than recreational play so it is going to be B-O-R-I-N-G, conservative methodology, intended to go up slowly. There are no "free lunches" around and I don’t mean sold systems, but paying with -*test*-('")ing time, patience and perseverance. No single posted system is "the holy grail", but like Sam says, if you do your homework, you can succeed. With an “average” system and using proper money management you can –for instance- size the bankroll to win more when you are winning and lose less when you are losing and by locking profits you can end up with more money than lost, even if you do not "beat the wheel" and you lose sessions. ------------ OShady, I would be pleased of teaching you first-hand my Lw methodology if you are not in a rush and are willing to make an exercise or two in order to familiarize with the patterns first. I’m going to do my “homework” since I’m currently getting used to my new small bankrolls framework, and I am willing to put the time and effort. I wouldn’t mind having a fellow friend in the learning and -*test*-('")ing process. Best regards, Your friend. Victor.

The second batch of numbers
I collected just over 100 numbers from two dealers at Dublinbet. Here are the results: A loss of 178 units. There was never a time when this system was ahead in this trot. I am playing just exactly as I said I would in the first post on this thread. I have another 100 numbers on a CD and ready to transcribe to paper and play. If I get a third losing session in a row, I will abandon this study and call it a loser. (For me) My bankroll and patience could never endure such a long losing streak. Sam

Hi Sam; Just for your information - I never had much luck trying to play this method either on Dublinbet. I thought I was the only one that took losses playing this. I tried it several times but never did do very well. Kind Regards; iggy

3rd batch of numbers
Well, this was better....... I had about 135 numbers and a profit of 180 units. I am thinking certain dealers make this work as in this trot Dale did not do well and Kate did very well. Had you bet only on Kate's spins, you would have won about 300 units. She had 13 wins in a row. Anyway, I will try more after the Labor Day Weekend. Sam

Re: 3rd batch of numbers
Well, this was better....... I had about 135 numbers and a profit of 180 units. I am thinking certain dealers make this work as in this trot Dale did not do well and Kate did very well. Had you bet only on Kate's spins, you would have won about 300 units. She had 13 wins in a row. Anyway, I will try more after the Labor Day Weekend. Sam Hi Sam,mate ¿You recoup? You have to complete 10 -*test*-('")s as I do ¿EHH? JAJA.- But try to make less spins. CHIPPO says play no more than 11 to 15 spins. Maintain the Game short he says. JLP.-

Jump in; Jump out
JLP.- From studying thousands of spins, I have formed the belief that one cannot jump in, win, and jump out. You must jump in, find a reason to play, win, and then jump out. To merely say, "I am going to play 15 spins and quit." just won't work. You can lose on those 15 spins, stay away a day and lose on the next 15 spins. In my last 110+ spin trot, had I quit on 15 spins, I would have lost every single one of them. Many people who do these studies are doing "ex post facto" or "after the fact" studies. Anyone can tell you what horse won when the announcer says, "It's official! In the winner's circle...." Also, anyone can look at a cold 100 spin trot with the winning and losing spins marked and say, "Oh, you should have started betting here." or "Oh, you should have quit here." When we are betting real money in live play, we never know when to jump in. If we did, we'd all just bet on red and be done with it. I am going to download another batch or two of 100 number trots and take them with me on vacation to -*test*-('"). Either it works or it doesn't. Sam

I have made a few -*test*-('")s with my "dinamic 11 number sector" and sometimes it wins, sometimes it doesn't, but it depends a lot on the dealer. Instead of a fixed set of numbers I just configured Roulette Xtreme to show last 6 numbers, I picked the best 11-number area (zone of eleven consecutive numbers where I saw a concentration of hits) and bet on it for 3 spins. No fixed set of numbers, dynamic one. Also, skipping spins if no dominant sector gathering 3 (or more) of the past 6 numbers. I did won some sessions but the la-*test*-('") one the dealer wasn't "sticky", I changed my event and that's it. ------------- There are no bad systems, there are "EVENTS" with good and bad times to enter backing them up wtih money. If a concept works for a fixed set of numbers, then you can extrapolate it to a dynamic one, jumping from the best one to the best one. If you can get less dispersion, that's valuable, although no matter what you do, there will be a time where nothing works; this is where the player need to make a pause and rethink, switch to virtual by tracknig the event and if simply doesn't, well, change. Regards, Victor.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong..........
JLP.- In this -*test*-('"), I am trying to duplicate your results. Please don't think I am trying to prove you wrong. Quite the opposite---I would love to prove you 100% right! I would enjoy tossing money at this system in real life. I have perfected my method of screen capture. I just set the software and go away for about three hours. I then burn it onto a disk and play it on my TV. I can transcribe 100+ numbers in about five minutes or less. So, I'm costing the family ten minutes for 100+ numbers. Not too bad... Anyway, these files are too large up upload. They are around 3/4 of a billion bytes. Would you trust me to post 100 numbers for you to work? This would probably be after next Tuesday, September 4th, as I will be on vacation until then and am not sure I will have Wi-Fi, but I may. Sam

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