Hey a question for SAM and JLP , do you bought the whole system from chippo and if you did does it worth it ?!?!?!?!
TwoCatSam- 09-14-2007
I am merely trying to duplicate JLP.-'s outstanding results using the 12 and 13 number sectors. I can't even do that.
Sam
TwoCatSam- 09-16-2007
Tom and Olga (9-13-07) In the following trot, Tom won +2 units and Olga won +102 units.
TwoCatSam- 09-16-2007
Question for JLP.- and Chippo Is there a difference between a sector becoming dominant by a hit or by default? Here is an example:
BECOMING DOMINANT BY A HIT...
1
2
2
3
3
2----This "2" makes the dominance.
BY DEFALUT......
1
1
1
2
2
2
3----This "3" will cause the topmost "1" to move out and the "2" sector to become dominant by defalut.
I seem to get very few hits when this happens.
If you guys can shelve that triangle for a couple of minutes, give me some feedback on this..please.
Samster
JLP- 09-16-2007
Re: Question for JLP.- and Chippo Is there a difference between a sector becoming dominant by a hit or by default? Here is an example:
BECOMING DOMINANT BY A HIT...
1
2
2
3
3
2----This "2" makes the dominance.
BY DEFALUT......
1
1
1
2
2
2
3----This "3" will cause the topmost "1" to move out and the "2" sector to become dominant by defalut.
I seem to get very few hits when this happens.
If you guys can shelve that triangle for a couple of minutes, give me some feedback on this..please.
Samster
Hello Sam,
For me the 2 situations are valid and it is predominant sector 2.
Maybe Chippo can say something more.
But Sam, do this if you want to duplicate my -*test*-('")s.
Don´t collect any number previously.
Here is what I do exactly explained step by step (I am not lying) :
1) Power on Computer.
2) Go to Dublinbet site.
3) Log on.
4) Go to Table one.
5) Take pen and paper, see the 10 numbers spun in the marquee.
6) Begin writing this 10 numbers in the paper and also write the first one you see when you enter at the site before that number goes out of the screen (this number is the most old one). Write down 1st. the Dealer name.
7) Next write next to the numbers the sector at which one belongs.
8) See which sector is predominant on the 6 spins and also see how it goes on the 11 or more spins for reference.
Sometimes the dealer goes fast and don´t let put chips on all numbers, so some spins may be missed, so try to put it quicker. The splits helps on this.
9) Begin betting on that one sector as if you were really betting. Unit bet = 5.
10) Use my structure of splits and only numbers (mixed) for the 3 sectors (S1 = 12 chips = 60, S2 = 8 chips = 40, S3 = 9 chips = 45)
11) Try to play from 5 to 15 spins as Chippo has said (Game short - Hit and Run).
12) Stop when a dealer change and retrack.
13) If you get a series of wins stop and quit.
14) Take one of my last -*test*-('")s (for ex. the 11 that was very short).
15) Make a copy and paste - change all the numbers from that and put yours, make a final resume with your observations as I have done.
16) Post it.
17) If you do that you have duplicate what I have done.
18) Now you are me, mate.
Maybe I have lucky in all this -*test*-('")s (¿Who knows?)
JLP.-
TwoCatSam- 09-16-2007
OK, Guvner, we'll do it your way.......... -S1 = 0 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 (13 numbers)
-S2 = 1 5 8 10 11 16 20 23 24 30 33 36 (12 numbers)
-S3 = 0 3 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 28 29 31 35 (13 numbers)
-S1 = (0/2) 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 ( 12 chips)
-S2 = (0/1) (5/8) (10/11) 16 (20/23) 24 (30/33) 36 (8 chips)
-S3 = (0/3) 7 (9/12) 14 18 22 (26/29) (28/31) 35 (9 chips)
JLP.-
Is the above correct? This was taken from one of your posts on the other forum, -*test*-('") number 10 I believe.
"and also see how it goes on the 11 or more spins for reference." Well, what is that? I don't recall this rule before.
Sam
JLP- 09-16-2007
Hello Sam,
That Estructure of bets is good.
¿Do you get it the part that I write on paper the 10 + 1 numbers and write next to each one to which sector belongs?
It can be 11, 12 or 13 spins at the beginning without betting, because sometimes Dealer don´t let me put all chips on numbers because he goes fast. ¿You get? So see how the sectors goes in that 11 spins and follow the common rule (3 on 6 spins)
In the last -*test*-('") I made - the number 11- if you read it sector 2 appears 16 times in 24 spins, but when I begin betting sector 2 was 4 in 6 spins.
In this case the Dealer (Matt) was alone - nobody betting.
I don´t know how much that can influence in the outcome of numbers and the sectors.
It´s not a rule, but see how goes the sectors on that 11 previous spins also. It can help.
Also see if the table is empty or crowded.
I cannot add anymore.
That is all I know.
Maybe Chippo with his long experience with the system can tell you more, mate.
Take care,
JLP.-
PS - ¿What means Guvner?
TwoCatSam- 09-16-2007
"Guvner" is English slang. Like "mate" but a little more formal. It is slang for Governor. Saw it in an old movie once,
Take care, Old Sport....
Sam
TwoCatSam- 09-16-2007
Using JLP.-'s sectors and splits The dealer was Marta.....
I played for 15 spins. For the whole trot there was a loss of $80. Quitting at five spins, there was a profit of $40. Quitting at the highest positive balance would have won $80.
Sam
TwoCatSam- 09-17-2007
On a positive note......... Brethren of the Wheel
I have not yet found seven losers in a row doing this study. Since we are betting a 2-1 proposition, that would be a wonderful progression if it holds up.
Of course, this begs the question: What do we do when we are into a progression and the dealer changes? Do we continue with the new dealer or pause the progression and wait or do we just eat the money lost so far and start over.
Any comment from any living human would be appreciated.
Sam
JLP- 09-17-2007
Re: On a positive note......... Brethren of the Wheel
I have not yet found seven losers in a row doing this study. Since we are betting a 2-1 proposition, that would be a wonderful progression if it holds up.
Of course, this begs the question: What do we do when we are into a progression and the dealer changes? Do we continue with the new dealer or pause the progression and wait or do we just eat the money lost so far and start over.
Any comment from any living human would be appreciated.
Sam
I think retrack the new dealer and continue with the progression at the point it was.
¿Hey, Sam my last advice from the previous post was helpful or not?
¿It served for something or not?
¿What happened with Suite332 and Ecocard?
I have a little plan for a Online Casino (RNG).
-Minisession : Target 5 units ----- > 5USD
I think 5 units per minisession is easy to get ¿No?
-10 minisessions/day : 50 units ------ > 50USD
10 minisessions at different hours in the day.
- Month : 50x30 = 1500 USD
-Initial bankroll = 50USD
-Fund account : Moneygram or Ecocard
-Withdrawal ----- > Moneybookers
This Casino accepts funding by Ecocard and withdrawal by another method (Moneybookers).
From Moneybookers ----- > Fund account at Dublinbet ----- > try Chippo system
You see is a pass money.
¿What do you think?
JLP.-
TwoCatSam- 09-17-2007
Hi J
Yes, your advice was helpful.
While we may disagree on certain points, we seem to have a common commitment to learning and profiting. That is my goal.
Since I am in the U.S., I am very limited to where I can play. I will only play live wheels and, yes, Suite332 is the only one I know of right now. ECO has had to abandon its U.S. customers, so I have no idea how to ever get my money back from Suite332.
I am -*test*-('")ing on Dublin's wheel for two reasons:
1. The ball is never picked up and is always spun from the position where it landed. This is not true at Suite332 or any CasnioWebCam organiziation nor at Bet365. Dublin is a very real wheel with real humans around the table betting...well, most of the time.
2. I want to duplicate your results on the same wheel you studied.
While I am not one to use progressions, this system has me curious about the number of loses in a row. If it rarely exceeds six, then a progression might prove profitable over time.
My wife and I have actually discussed living in England for a month or two so we could establish some sort of residence there and open our accounts from that base.
Sam
Pandurski- 09-20-2007
I really enjoy your posts boys , but a question ! I try the system with mixed success , but in online casino I don't have a loosing session with a progression, did you give it a try into a live casino with progression!
TwoCatSam- 09-20-2007
Pandurski
First, I rarely go to real brick-and-mortar casinos. I play Suite332 on line. It's a live wheel. I do not play RNGs.
At this point, I have to methods which win with flat bets and on them I use no progression. They are Gamelt's and VLS Lw Methodology. As far as Chippo's, I have not found it to be profitable with flat bets.
I am not much for progressions, as I just don't have the guts to throw down the kind of money it takes to fund one. Some people may be able to risk %500 to win $5, but I can't. And, with this system, you could easily leave out a number by mistake and it would surely win.
Sam
Pandurski- 09-22-2007
So you think it isn't a good idea to play a progression no matter I play, I think that too because when I loose the amount is getting bigger and bigger !??! TNX , I will read the VLS and gamelt's methods and give them a try but I want to try the whole system of chippo and I will tell you the true !
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