Wakers and dispersion

Wakers and dispersion
Hello guys. Anyone knows if there is any serious analysis on waker locations and their regular dispersion of hits? For progressional players dispersion of hits is what kills. I'm analyzing waker locations (not numbers alone) with this criterion: - 3 cycles sleeping / showing the least. - When that location hits, play the next full cycle and stop on a hit. Analyzing dozens/lines today. Just wondering if there is already a serious analysis on wakers I should know about :)

I'd have answered this sooner but.....
.......I'm having something tattooed on my back!! Victor, I have not done this as a pen and paper -*test*-('"), but a way I play is to watch all sleeping numbers until they have slept for 74 spins. I then write the sleepers in a "ready" box. When one wakes, I bet that waker for the next ten spins and stop. I don't bet for it to hit a second time after waking, only the first. I know it goes against logic and math, but it has been my experience that these wakers, taken as a group, will hit far more than once out of 37. This is something I do at Suite332 on a live wheel and only when I can stay on for 150 or so spins. Not much help, I know. I've thought to apply this some way to streets. Gamlet calls it "ICE" and tracks five or more wheel-neighbors that have slept 30 spins. He does not wait for a "trigger waker" as I do, but bets on the 31st spin that one of the sleeping five will wake. Sam

.......I'm having something tattooed on my back!! LoL Sam I'm finding the wakers not substantially discussed. The roulette wheel mostly works as a pendulum. Hot gets cold, Cold gets hot. (ok ok, at least "warm" ;)) If such a thing is stable in time, then the best way to profit from the pendulum is to bet the waker locations (with a limit, of course). I'm thinking only 1 more cycle after a hit. Full cycle! Since I'm a 3-in-a-row guy to consider things trend, I need this: - Column/Dozen 3 x 3 = 9 spins. - Line 6 x 3 = 18 spins. - Corner 9 x 3 = 27 spins. - Split 18 x 3 = 54 spins. I'm not much of an even money / straight-up guy. Those are extremes I do not like that much. ================= I prefer waker than sleepers per se. I have seen those sleepers sleep like the sleeping beauty from the fairy tale but the prince hanged at a bar with friends and got very very late to the altar for the awaking kiss. By the way, a fellow Spanish-speaking poster says the theoretical max is UNIVERSE X 20 times. Translated to locations that is: Even chances: 2 x 20 = 40 spins. Column/Dozens: 3 x 20 = 60 spins. Line: 6 x 20 = 120 spins. Corner: 9 x 20 = 180 spins. Street: 12 x 20 = 240 spins. Split: 18 x 20 = 360 spins. Straight-up: 37 x 20 = 740 spins. Ok, so what does he do with this information? A way to attack a raw sleeper location according to him is the 50% of that figure (universe x 10): Even chances: 2 x 10 = 20 spins. Column/Dozens: 3 x 10 = 30 spins. Line: 6 x 10 = 60 spins. Corner: 9 x 10 = 90 spins. Street: 12 x 10 = 120 spins. Split: 18 x 10 = 180 spins. Straight-up: 37 x 10 = 370 spins. Even at 50% as betting signal it is quite a ride to wait for those figures. I guess some people really likes to track… ;) On the other hand. “It is not the amount of bets that counts, only the winning ones”. So if you can act in that area, then the better. Furthermore, the guys extrapolate those numbers to other locations, so any 18-number combination of locations which hasn’t appeared by 20 spins is eligible. For instance: 6 streets, or 9 splits. I don’t know if they are into straight-number betting, but that “crew” seem to avoid straight-number betting a lot. Sam, since you said 74 spins (37 x 2), Would you say it is OK to extrapolate those two cycles to the other locations? Would you think 2 cycles is enough to consider a waker other than a straight-up? Just curious. Victor.

Victor My idea is to let any proposition sleep twice it's normal hit rate. A street normally hits 1 out of 12 spins. If street 1 could sleep 24 spins, I'd be there on the next spin after it woke. I've never studied this. It actually does work with single numbers, it just takes too long. Most of my winning systems take entirely too long. These numbers seem to come in waves like you teach. They go away for ever and then come in droves. Sam

hi victor & twocat i do not play sleepers anymore, but when did,this is the systeme i used. check off every number that fell until you get down to the last 12 un hit numbers,then you must "wait for one of the 12 unhit numbers to show before you start betting" bet for 6 spins use small pro--1,1,1,3,3,3 , after a win you could stop and rechart or stay in there for a couple more hits. the trick is waiting for one of the 12 unhit numbers to show,then start betting all 12 unhit numbers. victor, the analyse is , when a number awakes he also wakes up his buddies. oh! 0 or 00 dont matter

Thank you for the system RAY. I am going to open a new thread to comment my opinion on the "time for everything". I'm only analyzing this waker (not wankers LoL) numerical group in order to have more options! I'll be back to the forum in a couple mins. Writing that thread... This is the gambling framework forum so it fits.

Sam. While 2 times the universe is already a "due", I would prefer a greater imbalance. Most of my winning systems take entirely too long. Grinders are the winners, the ones which go up and down like a rollercoaster... not that great. These numbers seem to come in waves like you teach. Samster, taking for instance the Lw's. Concentration of L's (loses) ARE A NEED, otherwise playing lots of numbers should be the only thing you have to do in order to win. When playing with numerical advantage, the overall trend is to hit (w's). BUT the game is armored and the wheel must make that selection criterion lose at the expected rate, so the concentration of L's (loses) must be done against the overall trend, meaning it MUST BE DRASTIC. I hope that gets noticed: The return to balance in such selections must be drastic (at least when we talk about numerical advantage) WHY? Because the wheel is "fighting" the overall trend for the bet selection to win and it just can't hold it for too long! (OK. in theory it CAN, but say you are tracking lines -30 numbers- and it is crushing it... how long can the loses fight against the wins with 30 numbers covered?). By the way sam, speaknig of this topic. Have you read Marigny de Grilleau? If you haven't I can translate him for you without a problem. Regards. Victor. off to have lunch!

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